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Teetering Back and Forth

quingoff

02-11-2004 15:51:27

In august I recieved a load of dr. dyer stuff, one of the things was a guided meditation cd, when I first got it I really attempted to meditate with the cd every day or every other day, I did this for most of august and a little bit in september... but then near the end of sept and all of october I have not done it once. when I was doing the meditation i felt better and was more willing to take time to read the books I got by Dr.D and i found myself implementing and involving that type of thought process in my life. lately I have been angry toward many things, luckily I keep the simple logic of i want to feel good in mind, like how is being angry or yelling at something helping you feel good... anyway I keep thinking that nothing happens by accident and this is a phase maybe to show how better life was while do the things described earlier, well yesterday nov 1 I got the wanting to meditate once againg so I put the cd in the player and started, about two minutes into meditation, there was an itch here and there, i couldn't feel confortable, etc. Before when I was doing the meditaition if I would get an itch I'd simply ignore it and it would go away, and i found a way to ignore other distractions, yesterday, I said forget it!!! and quit. I said if I try to make the effort and improve my quaility of life by starting to mediate againn and this is what I get? I was slightly pissed off. I don't even know what to ask in terms of advice, I'm thinking if i post this maybe someone can disect my story and help me out to get back to a place where I was enjoying life.

Ron

03-11-2004 13:03:23

Nothing happens by accident - right on here! Everything that happens has been drawn to you by you from the thoughts you have placed in the universe - either consciously or unconsciously. And everything that happens to you has some message within it - some call it a lesson. And if you do not get the message the first time - learn the lesson on the first go around - it will reappear in your life. So pay attention to what it is you are to learn.

" Before when I was doing the meditaition if I would get an itch I'd simply ignore it and it would go away, and i found a way to ignore other distractions, yesterday, I said forget it!!! and quit. I said if I try to make the effort and improve my quaility of life by starting to mediate againn and this is what I get? I was slightly pissed off."

So you read what you posted and tell us who is responsible for what you experienced? Meditation is not always as easy as one make it sound. Ego does not like us meditating - it slows the mind down - it stops the chatter and we sit in a moment of truth - a moment of no past and no future. So yesterday you felt some itching and you decided to quit. Guess who made your choice here for you? You believe all you have to do is make an effort and the rest is given to you? What about what you are supposed to do? Remember how Dyer talks abouts going to bed at night never being "pissed" but always in "bliss." Do you want to add a new label "quitter" to yourself or do you want to call yourself as you are within you?

Namaste - Ron

Mr. Scott

17-12-2004 17:11:44

Ouch! That was rough, but I totally agree with Ron on this one. One thing that might be hard to get your head around is that this (growth, evolution) is a learning process. It may be frustrating at times, but so was algebra. The one thing that Dyer has written that works for me is when I start to get frustrated or annoyed at any situation, I just say to myself "Dont take yourself so goddamn seriously." And I don't. Realize too that in the beginning stages of growth, your ego isnt going to like taking a back seat to your infinite self. Its gonna fight and cry and whine like a little baby. I'm still in that stage myself, but sometimes you just gotta say "shut up and leave me alone. And quit taking yourself so goddamn seriously."

Psyche

31-12-2004 01:08:32

I used to meditate alot too, but then I kept putting it off in favour of other things I needed to get done. When I did sit down to start meditating again, I'd have the itches and the frustrating distractions like you are describing.


I would get the itches and distractions when I was trying too hard to relax and clear my mind. I ended up thinking only about getting into that meditative state of mind, and how it wasn't happening, and so.....my meditations would be a flop. What I do when it happens now, is just give up mentally. I stay in my meditative actions, but instead of sitting there wondering why it was going so badly, I just give up wondering and experience whatever happens. My ego overload (which is trying to direct my meditating mind) shuts up and I just let it all flow. Sometimes I get fantastic visions....sometimes I get nothing more than some quiet time with my eyes closed. The good thing about this though, is that whatever I am experiencing, is exactly what I need to experience at that time.

I hope you keep trying. It get easier as you practise.
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Cecil

31-12-2004 08:34:53

Susan Shumsky wrote a wonderful book called "Exploring Meditation." It's a great adjunct to Wayne Dyer's materials, and I recommend it.

Here's what she says on this subject.

"If your nose is running, blow it. If you feel like sneezing, sneeze. If you need to go to the bathroom, get up and go. If you itch, scratch. If your foot falls asleep, move. Simple, natural. Meditation isn't a contest to see how long you can remain motionless. It's a way to relax your mind and body, settle down and experience the truth of your being."