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Des Walsh on Power of Intention in his blog

chris knight

06-10-2004 07:49:28

Des Walsh mentions The Power of Intention in his blog

"The Power of Intention - Learning to Co-create Your World Your Way" - Dr Wayne Dyer. To quote usefully from the dustjacket blurb, "This book explores intention - not as something you do - but as an energy you're a part of." I find Dyer's approach to personal growth and evolution more accessible than the obsessive goal setting some people advocate. But then I'm a Dyer fan from way back )

Source http://deswalsh.typepad.com/homebusiness/2004/10/what_im_reading.html


Yeah, goal setting would create feelings of attachment to the goal and it's my perception that Dyer teaches to be attached to nothing. It's a paradox sometimes when you consider it...

Your thoughts?

Des

19-10-2004 18:59:58

Chris
Thanks for your comments on my blog entry. Yes, there is a paradox here and my sense is that Dr Dyer likes paradox - e.g. you'll see it when you believe it. One of my mentors, the late Thomas Leonard, founder of Coach U, the International Coach Federation and Coachville, was also a lover of paradox. An openness to paradox is in my view crucial to being able to grow spiritually. dictionary.com defines paradox thus A seemingly contradictory statement that may nonetheless be true the paradox that standing is more tiring than walking. A friend of mine once said, you need to learn that grey is a primary color.
Des

chris knight

20-10-2004 06:16:41

Chris
Thanks for your comments on my blog entry. Yes, there is a paradox here and my sense is that Dr Dyer likes paradox - e.g. you'll see it when you believe it. One of my mentors, the late Thomas Leonard, founder of Coach U, the International Coach Federation and Coachville, was also a lover of paradox.

Des,

Then we share a mentor... I never knew Thomas personally even though we exchanged emails before he passed suddenly.

In fact, my http://top7business.com/ project was totally inspired by Leonard's TopTen project.

I always thought it was funny that Leonard would support the concept that the EGO WAS GOOD, rather than the typical new age "EGO IS EVIL" ideologies...

Thomas's old manager http://www.andreajlee.com/ has become a good friend of mine. It is a small planet, eh?

Des

21-10-2004 23:28:21

Chris

Yes, I was very fortunate to meet Thomas Leonard in Sydney year before last and also blessed that I did the Coachville Certified Coach Intensive with him then. It was a conversation with him that then inspired me to go to San Francisco early last year for the Coachville conference, where I met Andrea Lee and others. It is indeed a small planet!

Des

Anonymous

22-10-2004 13:46:51

I am fascinated by the comment about Ego being Good rather than Ego being Evil. Please expand as I am always very open and objective to hearing all views on everything. There is something to be learned from each statement we encounter. )

chris knight

22-10-2004 13:55:32

I am fascinated by the comment about Ego being Good rather than Ego being Evil. Please expand as I am always very open and objective to hearing all views on everything. There is something to be learned from each statement we encounter. )

You can read this
http://www.andreajlee.com/thomas.pdf

But it doesn't really explain what Leonard had in mind.

and read this excerpt
Become Very Selfish

Yes, I really do mean selfish, but not in the take-take-take or needy-needy way. When your client understands that their being truly selfish (doing what they most want to do just because they want to, etc.) is good, they'll be on their way to REALLY making a contribution. It's my view that service, adding value and altruism/contribution occur as a RESULT of the 'giver' being highly selfish. This is not a common view, but when I see all of the people 'giving selflessly' out there -- and how their giving is either an extension of their ego, a power trip, a way to get needs met or some other psych-dynamic, I start believing more in the selfish-as-a-gift theory.

Source http://www.topten.org/Content/tt.CG9.htm

My take on it

Ego is only "Evil" if we say it is.

Dyer has made millions by helping folks learn how to identify the "evil" ego, but I believe the ego can be viewed in both lights.

Des, what do you think Leonard had in mind when he said, "EGO IS GOOD"?

Anonymous

22-10-2004 14:05:05

Chris,
Thank you very much! I appreciate the information and this gives me a wonderful new insight on things. One of my favorite authors is Ayn Rand - and while I certainly don't agree with her on everything, I too believe that to be giving one needs to be somewhat "selfish.' Her writings offer a perfect example of being able to read something objectively - and learn something from it.

chris knight

23-10-2004 09:25:48

One of my favorite authors is Ayn Rand - and while I certainly don't agree with her on everything, I too believe that to be giving one needs to be somewhat "selfish.' Her writings offer a perfect example of being able to read something objectively - and learn something from it.

When I was in college, I found myself attracted to many of Ayn Rand's philosophies... She was definitely ahead of her time in many of her objectivity-based philosophies and I'd classify her as a free spirit.

Read this
...Atlas Shrugged eventually became a best-seller. Like the earlier novel, it attracted negative reviews. Most critics found the premise of the novel-that the most gifted, creative, and successful members of a society are exploited by the untalented and unappreciative masses—only slightly less implausible than the major action of the novel, a strike of geniuses to force an end to their abuse.

Source http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/Rand.html

For those who have not studied Rand yet, her work appeals to those who search for non-religious answers about human evolution. One of her primary tenets is that "selfishness is a virtue and altruism a vice." Her novels have sold approximately twenty-five million copies and continues to sell at a healthy pace despite her death in 1982.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ayn's tenets wasn't at the base of Thomas Leonard's statement of becoming incredibly selfish as a way to give more of yourself to others.

Anonymous

24-10-2004 04:08:51

Thank you for your words! I agree and I appreciate your comments. )

Anonymous

24-10-2004 04:31:41

Chris,
To expand on this just a little bit - I have found that most individuals unfortunately greet all things they don't know about (including authors who express differing views like Rand) with preconceived notions about what exactly that may be. How wrong that is and we all - thanks to great teachers like Dyer and many others - must try to never do that. We must strive to stay objective with open minds and listen to see if we can take anything from that discussion - use it - then throw the rest away. And forget it. I truly appreciate your comments and I pray that you have a wonderful day!